Just want to make some flashback on the unsung hero, Josh Lim. Most of the bloggers now which are new to this industry will never heard of this story before. I’m really sure that you know this ads :
“Who Is Adam King”
by
Guiness
This is a great advertising campaign which has pulled out $8 million USD and being ran through three Asean countries namely Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong. Just ran through the Josh Lim sites which were hosted by their shareholder if I’m not wrong. It’s a XXXXX XXX XXX (taken from domaintools.com). XXXXX is the man behind the Josh Lim Associates.
What is the relationship between XXXXX and Josh? If you really do your homework on the Advertlets.com.my and Advertlets.com you will noticed that 3 different entity which holds the three different domains with same modus operandi.
Domain : Advertlets.com.my
Josh Lim Ventures
(001536438-V)
B-6-7
Dataran Prima Condo, PJU1/42 Dataran Prima
47301 Petaling
Selangor
(Tel) 012-3119141
Domain : Advertlets.com
Advertlets Sdn Bhd
Josh Lim
8-7-6, Menara Mutiara Bangsar
Jalan Liku, Off Jalan Riong
Kuala Lumpur
Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur,59100
MY
Tel. +603.22870099
Domain : Adverlets.com
Josh Lim & Associates
Josh Lim
8-7-6, Menara Mutiara Bangsar
Jalan Liku, Off Jalan Riong
Kuala Lumpur
Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur,59100
MY
Tel. +603.22870099
Ok forget about it, I will elaborate it in detail later on. Never bother about Advertlets anyway until they settled my disputes.
Who Is The Real Adam King?
2002, Josh made one big joke again. He registered the domain : www.whoisadamking.com after three days Guiness launched their campaign for Adam King. Pretty smart moves anyway Josh. He made himself a public figure that particular month but end up as a joker popular again. He loves publicity and he loves to be a public figure.
As at press time, Guinness’ legal department is “looking at the possibility of initiating legal action against the site creator for wrongful use of its trademark,” according to Ng.
Joker Josh replied :
“It cost me only RM60 (US$16) to register the domain name, and the whole registration process took only hours,” said Lim. He believes that Guinness should have registered all Adam King related domain names in the first place.
Lim also claimed that the Adam King name is not copyrighted and that it should not be because there could be real people with that name.
He is surprised that he has heard very little from Guinness Malaysia and said that he has only received a warning via e-mail by Guinness’ Adam King, claiming that the beverage company “would be initiating charges of fraud, impersonation, infringement of copyright, and wrongful use of a trademark” against him.
“I’m really interested to find out what they can do to me, and I would like to know why they can’t communicate with me in a more official manner,” Lim said in an interview.
“You cannot ignore your Web presence, and I feel that this could’ve been worse since some other parties might have used the site in a more harmful manner,” he added.
Nice moved Josh. Regarding the downtime issues for the Advertlets server and services I would love to point this to Advertlets Sdn Bhd to ensure that they will never forget the important of the domain name as what Josh said regarding the WhoisAdamKing.com issues :
To put things in perspective, it would only cost $15, or RM60 to register a domain name. A high-end, interactive site would probably cost about RM10,000. It is easily affordable to spend a small amount for the domains, and have left over for ordering alternative domains such as iamadamking.com - which is quite standard practice, if not common sense.
This domain, and its ownership, stands as a testament to the fact that much more could have been done.
The domain returned to the real AdamKing - Guinness after complaint and claimed by the real owner of the trademark. Guinness filed the claim on the Dec 11th, 2002 and the case being heard on January 24th, 2003. Josh returned the two domain : thisisadamking.com and whoisadamking.com. You have lost !
This is the readers comment on the TechCrunch coverage on the Advertlets Domain Name issues :
# Teej
January 7th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Wasn’t Josh the one who started the fuss about not registering domain names? See http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/…..779,00.htm
I think renewing domain names are equally as important!
Josh is obviously not walking the talk.
What will you say? Did you received Josh’s email begging you to put up back the ads? Will you?
References :
This is not Adam King
WhoisAdamKing.com
Advertlets Joins The Deadpool, Or Maybe Just Forgets To Renew Their Domain Name
List of Proceedings
WIPO case summary
WIPO Domain Name Decision
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6 Responses
Fahmishah
January 14th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
1i have heard about who is adam king but did not know about it
xBrain
January 14th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
2yeah, it was in 2002 when guiness stout launched the campaign
Warren Tan
January 15th, 2008 at 5:57 am
3I am in no way related to Josh Lim except for the fact that he was a customer of my company, Nerraw.com Sdn Bhd, many years ago.
My company Nerraw.com Sdn Bhd does not own any shares in Advertlets or Josh Lim & Associates.
Nerraw.com Sdn Bhd no longer offers hosting / domain services. All its customers, including Josh Lim, were transferred to Integricity Corporation Sdn Bhd.
Tripadilly - coz life’s a trip! » The Advertlets fiasco
January 15th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
4[…] complicate things further, a director of my company is being falsely implicated in connection with the Advertlets […]
xBrain
January 15th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
5Thank you for the clarification Warren Tan. I hope this will clear out our misunderstanding.
Cheers
Azrin
January 17th, 2008 at 12:13 am
6Warren, in this case, you should publish this as a press statement and change all the WHOIS etc off, since NERRAW.COM is still listed as the registrant of Advertlets services and domains alike.
As such, you can be sued under the US Federal Law for deception (Digital Misinterpretation of Corporate Intent)
Best regards
azrin @ http://www.kedai.tv
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